tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5549306427964459740.post6594144876006371875..comments2023-12-23T05:14:34.273-05:00Comments on Wit's End: Barking Up the Wrong TreeGail Zawackihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01800944469843206253noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5549306427964459740.post-24880263840478094802012-11-09T14:07:37.901-05:002012-11-09T14:07:37.901-05:00from Collapse of Industial Civilization:
Without a...from Collapse of Industial Civilization:<br />Without a doubt, we’ve become an arrogant species who thinks of itself as a force of nature to be reckoned with. Unfortunately for us, the real world of biophysical sciences says that we are not above the laws of the natural world and we’ll be dealt with accordingly. When organisms cannot adapt to their environments, they go extinct. When the activities of man alter the favorable atmospheric conditions for his existence, then he suffers the same fate of every life form that has disappeared from the face of the Earth. Intelligence served man well in his primitive state, offering flexibility against changing conditions, but on today’s technological scale that encompasses the entire planet, it’s cumulative effect has been to destroy.michele/montrealnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5549306427964459740.post-5291633184583720132012-11-08T18:58:30.429-05:002012-11-08T18:58:30.429-05:00Michele, I heard an excerpt of Richard Burton'...Michele, I heard an excerpt of Richard Burton's diary read out loud on NPR. Did you know he was a doomer? But I don't know yet exactly why. If I ever get any money in my shuttered bank account, I'm going to get a copy. He was a very good writer.Gail Zawackihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01800944469843206253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5549306427964459740.post-22694903281393335622012-11-08T17:54:46.496-05:002012-11-08T17:54:46.496-05:00I am struggling these days between my human need t...I am struggling these days between my human need to talk and the fact that I have nobody to talk to. And realizing that all the talking I did in my life was pretty useless. But how do I bring silence in my soul? How to live my death?<br /><br />One big storm here(like the ice storm of the 1990) and we are in for a never ending nightmare. So many BIG trees just waiting to fall. It would/will almost certainly jail us in darkness and cold. Cars and planes still running in the billions with their mindless loads, day and night. This is insane. michele/montrealnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5549306427964459740.post-816967963256798222012-11-08T14:27:45.948-05:002012-11-08T14:27:45.948-05:00http://chronicle.com/article/The-Conservative-Turn...http://chronicle.com/article/The-Conservative-Turn-Against/135488/<br /><br />interesting article co-authored by Naomi Oreskes about the divide between conservatism and science, but I'm putting it here in the context of the question of north/south hemispheric exchange, this quote:<br /><br />Less well remembered but equally important was the work of Clair Patterson, a geochemist at the California Institute of Technology, who showed that lead pollution from cars had reached Antarctica. Gail Zawackihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01800944469843206253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5549306427964459740.post-40083144586633996512012-11-08T07:26:12.677-05:002012-11-08T07:26:12.677-05:00Not too long ago if I said anything about trees be...Not too long ago if I said anything about trees being unhealthy, almost everyone would look surprised, and then disagree. Now, most people nod their heads reluctantly and then shrug their shoulders. Nothing we can do about, so why even think about it?Gail Zawackihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01800944469843206253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5549306427964459740.post-12518230126619709952012-11-08T04:19:23.553-05:002012-11-08T04:19:23.553-05:00Regarding the question about the S Hemisphere - ye...Regarding the question about the S Hemisphere - yes, in general there is a lot of decoupling of the atmosphere between hemispheres.<br />Much less aerosols, NOx & SO2 etc in S hemisphere. I don't know about background ozone although the max ozone values will be lower in general.<br />Here in NZ much less obvious damage to trees than described in US, but I have increasingly noticed light green lichens on many tree trunks. <br />Death of giant kauri in Northern NZ from fungi seems to me likely to result from pollution. Indigenous Maori elders of the area commented recently on TV "the forest seems tired" which I suppose sums it up.JohnGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11613781884378953465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5549306427964459740.post-43093483720293645962012-11-07T08:28:57.437-05:002012-11-07T08:28:57.437-05:00From the Gilgamesh link:
I will pull down the Gat...From the Gilgamesh link:<br /><br />I will pull down the Gates of Hell itself,<br />Crush the doorposts and flatten the door,<br />And I will let the dead leave<br />And let the dead roam the earth<br />And they shall eat the living.<br />The dead will overwhelm all the living!<br /><br />Heh, I knew it! Zombie Apocalypse!Gail Zawackihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01800944469843206253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5549306427964459740.post-40947291275605525642012-11-07T08:07:25.647-05:002012-11-07T08:07:25.647-05:00Epic of Gilgamesh, part deux: This Time, by Tailpi...<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cedar_Forest" rel="nofollow">Epic of Gilgamesh</a>, part deux: This Time, by Tailpipe.<br /><br />One day too, here in North America, our ancestors will have mythology about a once great forest.<br /><br />Lord, Mr. Ford, what have you done?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5549306427964459740.post-15615894288314108692012-11-06T15:35:39.955-05:002012-11-06T15:35:39.955-05:00Sandy was a government weather event. So was Iren...Sandy was a government weather event. So was Irene. <br /><br />See how below:<br /><br />http://sincedutch.wordpress.com/2012/11/04/geoengineeringfrankenstorm-hurricane-sandy-and-the-air-force-weather-weapon-system-part1/PLoveringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04027992777731735792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5549306427964459740.post-50235141078362481692012-11-06T08:17:13.579-05:002012-11-06T08:17:13.579-05:00I'm glad you like them, Gaianne. It takes a l...I'm glad you like them, Gaianne. It takes a long time to grab, convert & upload!<br /><br />Bernhard, this is what I mean when I talk about people going crazy - think Salem witch hunts:<br /><br />http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/02/demon-possession-republicans-poll-climate-change_n_2066476.htmlGail Zawackihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01800944469843206253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5549306427964459740.post-23137934900381343832012-11-06T06:47:38.680-05:002012-11-06T06:47:38.680-05:00It really is terrifying, isn't it? No wonder ...It really is terrifying, isn't it? No wonder so few people will even consider it yet alone believe it. Yet it is very simple. Earth is like a closed garage. We are running the engines, and the toxins are building up.Gail Zawackihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01800944469843206253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5549306427964459740.post-11033248946342979602012-11-06T03:16:45.253-05:002012-11-06T03:16:45.253-05:00Dear Gail.
In a previous entry you say: "......Dear Gail. <br />In a previous entry you say: "...as more people do wake up and see what is so obviously before them, they will simply go insane....". Well I do hope the rest of what you write will never happen to the "Cassandras" nowadays.<br /><br />But this "will simply go insane" has me fascinated. About ten years ago I gave up to try to educate fellow members of this planets most disastrous species. The then last conclusion was - this species is insane, all of us. <br />So having the: insane going insane about finally seeing the obvious - this will be something. Lately tend to join the choir of a few - we are living in interesting times indeed.<br />Southern hemisphere -trees. 30 years ago on a train journey along Australia's east coast. Trees dying or dead already, back then. Far too many for being anything like natural. This stretch of land has been "developed" since even further. Guess hardly any people there remember what the country looked like, even only 30 years ago. <br /><br />Well, thank you. Wish you all the best. The last refuge for sanity - the internet.Bernhardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5549306427964459740.post-12140405006402216712012-11-06T00:03:03.203-05:002012-11-06T00:03:03.203-05:00Thanks for the pix.
--Gaianne Thanks for the pix. <br /><br />--Gaianne Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5549306427964459740.post-31130874758110010872012-11-05T23:45:48.182-05:002012-11-05T23:45:48.182-05:00I would say that your conclusion that trees are dy...I would say that your conclusion that trees are dying from ozone is one of the most frightening things I have read in years.<br /><br />This is coming from a repressed doomer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5549306427964459740.post-8575661621390951872012-11-05T19:37:30.162-05:002012-11-05T19:37:30.162-05:00Dave and Gail,
There are some ways to evaluate p...Dave and Gail,<br /> There are some ways to evaluate pollution in N. America - EPA and NOAA. http://www.epa.gov/air/emissions/<br />http://alg.umbc.edu/usaq/<br /><br />There is some research in comparing hemispheres in 2005 IPCC...<br /><br />http://www.grida.no/climate/ipcc_tar/wg1/pdf/TAR-05.PDF<br /><br /><br />rpaulihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00016149709193595632noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5549306427964459740.post-77472180019334675442012-11-05T18:43:07.685-05:002012-11-05T18:43:07.685-05:00I don't really know Dave, I have never been so...I don't really know Dave, I have never been south of the equator. I'm not sure how much mixing there is.<br /><br />However, there are many, many reports of trees dying in the southern hemisphere. There's a video that I linked to and discuss here: http://witsendnj.blogspot.ca/2012/04/expect-us.html<br /><br />also, you can just google dying trees with any country and come up with plenty of results.Gail Zawackihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01800944469843206253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5549306427964459740.post-49193452276673952212012-11-05T18:12:52.144-05:002012-11-05T18:12:52.144-05:00Do you know if the trees in the southern hemispher...Do you know if the trees in the southern hemisphere are fairing better? I remember reading once that pollution/fallout would mostly stay in the hemisphere where it originated. If this is true I would expect trees in the southern part of the world would be in better shape because there is less industry there but I have no way to verify this.Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09282324002827440263noreply@blogger.com